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T O P I C R E V I E WElectro DGXI'm a Scorpio Mars. Supposedly I'm supposed to be manipulative, secretive, do slow burns, hold grudges till the end of time, all that Scorpio stuff. However, it's not like me at all. I've resonated with an Aries Mars quite a bit, and it really shows. I get angry very quickly, and want to punch holes in walls and stuff when losing a race in a game lol. My temper flares quickly and I've been prone to literally screaming at people quite instantly. My reaction has been delayed, but I think that is more of a Mercury-Mars square issue. Even on the forums sometimes people annoy me to the point where I just want to go off on a long, endless rant (please don't think I dislike you, just being honest). I get very competitive to the point where I'm literally shaking from the adrenaline over simply solving a problem in math so I can win the prize in a game. Slow burns is not me at all, because I'm most angry in the heat of the moment and my anger doesn't build overtime. I may stay angry at certain people for a while, but it's not a slow burn. I can't seem to hold a grudge for more than half-a-day before wanting to move on from it and I find myself redoing certain situations if I can't find probable results quickly. I can control my anger but at points it becomes very difficult to. My Mars is in Scorpio conjunct Asc exact (in first house), square Mercury and Neptune by one degree, opposite Saturn and Trine Venus by three degrees and square sun by seven degrees. It is parallel Pluto in declinations. Why do I feel like this? It's so confusing...I've been pondering over this issue and even though I've found possible reasons as to why, I still just don't understand how it's placed in Scorpio. ------------------Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, NeptuneScorpio Mars conj. Asc in First8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine UranusHave you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet?Vajra.Seimei So let me get this straight, you only have a Mars in your chart in Scorpio. No other planets working in synergy with others making aspects to a Sun, Moon and ascendant. HOW STRANGE. Must be the curse of all those piecemeal cookie cutter astro websites spewing crap and you have eaten it all.------------------LeekingCheeElectro DGXThanks for the reply Vajra. I can agree with the bit on Scorpio Moons, since my Grandma is one and she's proved over and over again that she can hold a grudge. Considering that, being an Aquarius Sun and Gemini Moon, that is probably the reason why I find it so easy to forgive and forget. Even with my Moon in the 8th opposite Pluto though, it's quite interesting ------------------Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, NeptuneScorpio Mars conj. Asc in First8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine UranusHave you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet?theunknownAquarius sun and Scorpio Mars is a very powerful combination nothing to worry therecchampliss2What's that mars square Neptune and mercury square Neptune conjunct asc like? Is that like sort of a hazy, delusional, smoke and mirrors type of way you go about things or how you present yourself to others? Or since mars is also the drive, that you go about things in a Neptune type of way, more spiritual or transcendental based? hypatia238 quote:Originally posted by Vajra:Grudge holding is not something shown by the Mars placement - that's more a function of the Moon. The Mars placement is more about how we express aggression (among other things of course) once we get angry, but our emotional nature is not defined by it so much.Cancer and Scorp Moon (and Cap Moon to some degree) take the cake in holding eternal grudges IME, but then, it depends among other things on their Mars placement how these Moons would act out on the grudge. Like, a Cancer Moon might have the memory of an elephant and never get over something, but their mellow Pisces Mars would not let them get outwardly aggressive about it (and they might opt to drown their sorrows instead) - while the same Moon sign combined with a Scorp or Aries Mars might react much more aggressively. I know several Scorp Mars people who are very straightforward and forgiving - and they all have significant Sag placements (Sun or Moon) and a forgiving/rational Moon sign in each case.Doux RêveThe reason is quite simple.Look at your aspects. Aspects are more powerful than the sign, and will alter the expression of any planet significantly. Mars square Mercury AND Sun is famous for short temper and quick verbal "attacks". The opposition to Saturn only makes your tolerance for frustration that much thinner. And you probably get frustrated quite a lot. But, in your case, instead of holding it in (as a lot of Mars/Saturn individuals do), you express it almost instantly, because your Mars is directly connected not only to your Sun (core), Mercury (mind/communication), but also - and I think this might be the culprit - to your ASC. It's a direct, effortless manifestation here, and encompasses several things at a time. The Scorpio energy itself may manifest in what you say, and the motivation behind the words/anger. You may try to hurt people's feelings via attacking their "weaknesses" or "inadequacies", and assert dominance in your psychological "acuteness". The motives may seem intellectual or ideological (since you're Air-influenced), but are primarily triggered by emotions and power plays. So the impact you aim to make is of an emotional/psychological nature... and the notion of power is very crucial here - you most probably don't ever want to be in a position where someone has the upper hand, especially if it comes to your ideas or feelings. charlieMy husband has Mars (Cap) sq Sun, Mercury (Aries) and he can fly off the handle and say some really, really nasty things! has a Taurus Moon as well..ElysiaNaww!! Just because you're not some terrifying mythical cross-breed of Sauron, Lord Voldemort and the Minotaur, with a pet Basilisk in his mountain lair; doesn't mean you're a 'defective' Scorpy mars. Plus, yours is conjunct the Asc - you can't help the flare-ups, it being so close to the surface of your being as to be most *visible*.Electro DGX quote:Originally posted by Elysia:Naww!! Just because you're not some terrifying mythical cross-breed of Sauron, Lord Voldemort and the Minotaur, with a pet Basilisk in his mountain lair; doesn't mean you're a 'defective' Scorpy mars. Plus, yours is conjunct the Asc - you can't help the flare-ups, it being so close to the surface of your being as to be most *visible*.Alright, I understand now. On the inside I can be a Lord Voldemort lol 😂Thanks Elysia and everyone else who posted a constructive response. ------------------Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, NeptuneScorpio Mars conj. Asc in First8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine UranusHave you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet?
I've resonated with an Aries Mars quite a bit, and it really shows. I get angry very quickly, and want to punch holes in walls and stuff when losing a race in a game lol. My temper flares quickly and I've been prone to literally screaming at people quite instantly. My reaction has been delayed, but I think that is more of a Mercury-Mars square issue. Even on the forums sometimes people annoy me to the point where I just want to go off on a long, endless rant (please don't think I dislike you, just being honest).
I get very competitive to the point where I'm literally shaking from the adrenaline over simply solving a problem in math so I can win the prize in a game. Slow burns is not me at all, because I'm most angry in the heat of the moment and my anger doesn't build overtime. I may stay angry at certain people for a while, but it's not a slow burn. I can't seem to hold a grudge for more than half-a-day before wanting to move on from it and I find myself redoing certain situations if I can't find probable results quickly. I can control my anger but at points it becomes very difficult to.
My Mars is in Scorpio conjunct Asc exact (in first house), square Mercury and Neptune by one degree, opposite Saturn and Trine Venus by three degrees and square sun by seven degrees. It is parallel Pluto in declinations.
Why do I feel like this? It's so confusing...I've been pondering over this issue and even though I've found possible reasons as to why, I still just don't understand how it's placed in Scorpio.
------------------Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, NeptuneScorpio Mars conj. Asc in First8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine UranusHave you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet?
So let me get this straight, you only have a Mars in your chart in Scorpio. No other planets working in synergy with others making aspects to a Sun, Moon and ascendant. HOW STRANGE.
Must be the curse of all those piecemeal cookie cutter astro websites spewing crap and you have eaten it all.
------------------LeekingChee
Considering that, being an Aquarius Sun and Gemini Moon, that is probably the reason why I find it so easy to forgive and forget. Even with my Moon in the 8th opposite Pluto though, it's quite interesting
quote:Originally posted by Vajra:Grudge holding is not something shown by the Mars placement - that's more a function of the Moon. The Mars placement is more about how we express aggression (among other things of course) once we get angry, but our emotional nature is not defined by it so much.Cancer and Scorp Moon (and Cap Moon to some degree) take the cake in holding eternal grudges IME, but then, it depends among other things on their Mars placement how these Moons would act out on the grudge. Like, a Cancer Moon might have the memory of an elephant and never get over something, but their mellow Pisces Mars would not let them get outwardly aggressive about it (and they might opt to drown their sorrows instead) - while the same Moon sign combined with a Scorp or Aries Mars might react much more aggressively. I know several Scorp Mars people who are very straightforward and forgiving - and they all have significant Sag placements (Sun or Moon) and a forgiving/rational Moon sign in each case.
Cancer and Scorp Moon (and Cap Moon to some degree) take the cake in holding eternal grudges IME, but then, it depends among other things on their Mars placement how these Moons would act out on the grudge. Like, a Cancer Moon might have the memory of an elephant and never get over something, but their mellow Pisces Mars would not let them get outwardly aggressive about it (and they might opt to drown their sorrows instead) - while the same Moon sign combined with a Scorp or Aries Mars might react much more aggressively.
I know several Scorp Mars people who are very straightforward and forgiving - and they all have significant Sag placements (Sun or Moon) and a forgiving/rational Moon sign in each case.
Mars square Mercury AND Sun is famous for short temper and quick verbal "attacks".
The opposition to Saturn only makes your tolerance for frustration that much thinner. And you probably get frustrated quite a lot. But, in your case, instead of holding it in (as a lot of Mars/Saturn individuals do), you express it almost instantly, because your Mars is directly connected not only to your Sun (core), Mercury (mind/communication), but also - and I think this might be the culprit - to your ASC. It's a direct, effortless manifestation here, and encompasses several things at a time.
The Scorpio energy itself may manifest in what you say, and the motivation behind the words/anger. You may try to hurt people's feelings via attacking their "weaknesses" or "inadequacies", and assert dominance in your psychological "acuteness". The motives may seem intellectual or ideological (since you're Air-influenced), but are primarily triggered by emotions and power plays. So the impact you aim to make is of an emotional/psychological nature... and the notion of power is very crucial here - you most probably don't ever want to be in a position where someone has the upper hand, especially if it comes to your ideas or feelings.
Just because you're not some terrifying mythical cross-breed of Sauron, Lord Voldemort and the Minotaur, with a pet Basilisk in his mountain lair; doesn't mean you're a 'defective' Scorpy mars.
Plus, yours is conjunct the Asc - you can't help the flare-ups, it being so close to the surface of your being as to be most *visible*.
quote:Originally posted by Elysia:Naww!! Just because you're not some terrifying mythical cross-breed of Sauron, Lord Voldemort and the Minotaur, with a pet Basilisk in his mountain lair; doesn't mean you're a 'defective' Scorpy mars. Plus, yours is conjunct the Asc - you can't help the flare-ups, it being so close to the surface of your being as to be most *visible*.
Alright, I understand now. On the inside I can be a Lord Voldemort lol 😂
Thanks Elysia and everyone else who posted a constructive response.
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